We knew what we knew what we were going to do. Rick, Donald actually had talked to me after the meeting and said, how much that meant to James. . I stepped into a conference room. The man does not make the ministry., God [emailprotected]. Well, maybe it had approval by the executive elders, maybe it had approval by Fred Adams, who was the CFO at the time. And if I would, you know, post some sort of statement. I have them up at my website if you want to see those. Ill tell you one thing, Julie. I said, I will confess my transgression to the Lord, and you forgave the iniquity of my sin. Pastor Platforming James MacDonald Says Strong Women with Weak Husbands Become 'Toxic' By Julie Roys December 22, 2022 5:39 pm CST 26 Comments Pastor Ryan Visconti of Generation Church in Mesa, Arizona, is attracting attention for his partnership with James MacDonald and provocative social media posts. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? Had it not been for that recording, I mean, what do you think? I at least heard of it from somebody by that point. And at this point, the letters, what had happened with the letters? A Christian leader, according to 1 Timothy 3:3, should not be "greedy for filthy lucre.". Okay. But according to a recent email by MacDonald, he's a victim of defamation by an "envious child"and needs your money "to rebuild." "Tragically . May 19, 2021 10:53 am To some former Harvest Bible Chapel insiders, Rick Donald was not just James MacDonald's right-hand man; he was also his "hatchet man" or "smiling assassin." Load more And in case you dont know, Dan Marquardt was one of three former elders at Harvest, who stood up to James McDonald in 2013, and was excommunicated as a result. Theres no joy in doing this. Judson is a top ranked Christian university providing a caring community and an excellent college experience. There would be no Roys Report without Judson University. Dan was one of the elders who fired James McDonald. How come church leaders and male congregants are always beating up the women with this particular Scripture but no one ever (to my knowledge) addresses the husbands responsibility to love their wives as Christ loved the church? Julie Roys knows she published many false statements about me, false statements now proven such in a court of law, yet she has retracted nothing. . And I dont know whether it was Rick Donald, who was was talking at that point about he had the letters, and didnt think that the elders should read all of them. And I just felt this incredible weight. Well she finally called Julie Jezebel Roys I invited Julie to appear in a public forum before and interested audience and answer for the many many lies she has told about me and my family as well as her bullying of anyone who opposes her or stands with us. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. I hope you have a great day and God bless. That was positioned as an attack from the start. The leaders were brought together. According to an independent audit of Harvest Bible Chapel, disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, siphoned off millions in church funds to support his lavish lifestyle. Her articles have appeared in numerous periodicals. Dan George served as an elder at Harvest Bible Chapel over a period of 10 years, actively serving on the elder board from 2010 through 2015, and rejoining the board in late 2018. My spouse and I and many others went to college with James in the eighties in Canada. Tragically . 28 Feb 2023 13:40:27 Our marriage improved incredibly after we both agreed that neither one of us was Jesus. The multi-campus Harvest Bible Chapel in greater Chicago along with founder James MacDonald, has slapped several former workers and independent journalist Julie Roys with a defamation lawsuit alleging the publication of false information about the church, its finances and governance that resulted in the loss of 2,000 members. it's time for the cult of personality of James MacDonald at Harvest chapter to close and the actual Bible to be opened . It just seems that the church of the USA is a joke. I would listen to MacArthur, Piper and Macdonald on a regular basis. Subscribe here for Pastor James' twice-weekly email devotionals straight to you inbox, plus occasional updates regarding his ministries, events, and personal news. It was really it was a painful meeting, it was a was an eye opening meeting as well though. Then let me just ask you from the start, why are you doing this? And her being in my house and literally shaking as shes recounting. And everyone who stayed just drank the Kool-Aid. I still dont understand all sides of the transgender issue, but can say 2 things: 1. Youre, youre characterizing it correctly. When Christian leaders continue to teach that abuse does not constitute biblical grounds for divorce they are wrong, Vernick wrote. How do spot a safe pastorand can. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. Because your article seemed to conflate all these things. And scripture is really clear that its got to be, you know, two or three witnesses. Voice of James MacDonald Believed to Be Featured in Vulgar Comments. And you couldnt be accused of disseminating them to the larger public. And then out of the blue, I get slapped with a lawsuit from James McDonald before I published anything. The airing accelerated the timeline. And marital and sexual satisfaction plummet., We are meant to set aside power and authority and serve one another (Matthew 20:25-28) as we are partnered together (Ecclesiastes 4:9-12), Gregoire added. It was one of the big red flags to me, or I guess it was a yellow flag could have been a red flag, I wouldnt have done it. There were elders and influential families that spoke against Moses in the desert, God destroyed them and their families. So so sorry for anyone who has had to face the James MacDonald storm. Gosh she is just filthy with gossip as fact and at very best half the story. It was a conference call because it happened fast. Again, thanks so much for joining me today. However as I grew in age and hopefully in wisdom, I consulted other versions of the Bible. Just finished my post on clarifiers that will precede the deception lists. I knew that I wasnt going to win any arguments in the room. What it really means to speak the truth in love, one post read. Bank Dismisses Foreclosure on James MacDonald's Estate After Settlement with Harvest. But over there, you know, I, you know, six, seven people who had read the letters, probably more than that by the time, and we talked about what was in the letters. A strong woman with a stronger husband will become an unstoppable, gracious, and capable woman. And I checked my voicemail. Why did you think it was important to own not just who James McDonald was, and not just point the finger at him. She declined. Visconti also had posts supporting far-right causes. His support of Kari Lake shows that he supports her lies. And as people rotated through, there were newer people on the board, and they wouldnt have really had a lot of access to to James McDonald. Dan and his wife, Kim, subsequently left Harvest, but remain committed to the integrity of the Church and caring for those who have been hurt in the Church. And I remember reading through that scripture and reading through Hebrews 13:17, about elders overseeing and giving an account, and Galatians 1:10 about am I trying to please man, am I trying to please God? Yes, yes. MacDonald is a successful American religious entrepreneur. To myself, I said, and do our job. He also advertised an upcoming GrampCampan overnight retreat providing training and tools for grandparents to connect with their grandkids. I acknowledge my sin to you. It seems we are being punished for the acts of someone who was our spiritual leader and was misleading us in a very unqualified way. I remember going home, my wife picked me up, I went home, and I just laid on the couch and looked at her. Hear the dramatic and sovereignly orchestrated story of how MacDonalds actions finally came to light at Harvest. Hes like the whole the whole thing was about resigning. I knew I had to do it. Today the guys share their conversation with journalist, author, and speaker Julie Roys. Charles, To donate, click here. One is, I dont want people to give up on the church. Now, now James is saying, oh, Mancow edited this to say something that it really didnt say. God does not value the sanctity of marriage more than the safety and sanity of individuals in that marriage.. Jennifer That this was all a plot by him that he was vengeful, towards James McDonald. Others as well, who were defending and saying, well, the elders shouldnt even have these letters we had agreed, they go to the reconciliation team. But by the time we were done that night, the decision that night was two things. He says, Well, for when I kept silent my bones wasted through my groaning all day long for day and night, your hand was heavy upon me. And lets just, for people who dont know, tell them who Rick Donald is and the position he held and his relation to James McDonald. But he said when he and Scott Phelps and Barry Slebaugh went into a meeting with James in the summer of 2012, asking for, whats your salary James? H arvest Bible Chapel and founding pastor James MacDonald have announced that they plan to drop their lawsuit against The Elephant's Debt bloggers and Julie Roys after a court today denied. And there were several of us saying, you know, looking at I Timothy 5, looking at Hebrews 13:17, which tells us that elders are going to give an account. Christian Rocker Posts Stunning Response to Recent Apostasy of Christian Leaders, Chicago Radio Host & a Former Bodyguard Say James MacDonald Asked Them to Arrange Murders, James MacDonald Took Millions from Harvest & Now Demands Broadcast Ministry, Mancow Airs Shocking Comments By James MacDonald: My Response. So if you cant say anything, I mean, again, hes dismissive of the actual letters. It was positioned as an attack because the ministry was growing and those people were bitter, etc. It was a four hour meeting. James MacDonald, who was recently fired as senior pastor at Harvest Bible Chapel, is now facing an allegation of sexual misconduct by the church's former worship leader. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Hi. Judson is located on a beautiful 90 acre campus just 36 miles northwest of Chicago. Julie, are you saying that you support trans mutilation/murder of pre-born children/and are against conservatives? Its funny how things turn out, and this situation isnt wrapped up, yet. Ostensibly, one of the assets MacDonald obtained in the arbitration settlement is the list of email addresses of former Walk in the Word supporters. If youd like to find me online, just go to Julieroys.com. And he conspired with these staff to bring these letters because they all just were out to get James. Yeah. And this wasnt a one time thing. Theres a number of narratives out there right now about how these letters came to the elder board. Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. Search my early tweet history. . I agree that its loving to speak the truth, even when its unpopular, but the New Testament also has a lot to say about the way we conduct ourselves and how we should treat each other. I thought the weight was dealing with everything else in there was a weight, but that was the weight. And so I was pulling into the garage, and I knew I knew, as soon as I pulled in the garage, you know, I was, I was gonna go drive up to whatever floor and go to the meeting. You know, they asked him as an executive committee member and the elder board chairman. And I was still on the board. And so what Id like to do is just rewind a couple of years to fall 2018. And learn how MacDonald almost escaped being exposedand how six scathing letters that revealed MacDonalds true nature almost failed to reach the elder board. Who were all shameless self promoters. Again, six, absolutely scathing letters. I wish I didnt. Well, and thanks so much for listening to The Roys Report, a podcast dedicated to reporting the truth and restoring the church. There was just enough false doctrine so that it was swallowed up with the truth. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. In June, Visconti also posted a picture of him and his wife with James MacDonald and his wife. And I know I totally get what youre talking about. #JRgossipslut James MacDonald (@jamesmacdonald) June 15, 2021 What is the point of bringing this pastors political views into the story? Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. I encourage you to talk to Christian doctors who are fearful of extreme under no circumstances legislation that now forces molested preteens to give birth, and makes it difficult to treat a septic And I hope I hope that a lot of people have read that and they dont owe me anything, but I hope its been healing to them. And I dont need to know. So I appreciate it. How come its always wives submit to your husbands and never husbands love your wives? However, an email that I got, that Duitsman had sent out and then it was leaked to me, said that what Duitsman was upset about was the fact that the elders were admitting that they had failed. And this is this was this was hard, but at the end of the night, we talked through it, we shared things from the letters. But to also say, this was this was my fault, too. And now think about this. And that was the day that Mancow Muller aired these excerpts. The picture with deceiver Kari Lake speaks volumes! And they said, I remember Dan telling me that that James slammed his fist on the table. Its come to this. He had joined, I think a year into, into Harvests history. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. The senior pastor at my church moved into town in 2014, and bought a home in proximity to the church for $260,000. So I mean, again, this was round. And there was a voicemail from one of the pastors at Harvest, in a really sort of pushing for me to sign that put my name to that. I know James McDonald says it was a conference call. Following allegations of years-long bullying and financial misconduct, the lead pastor and executive team of an Association of Related Churches (ARC) megachurch, Everyone was laughing and goading, like it was a jokeuntil it wasnt. So if youre listening, you need and you havent read those letters, you need to go back and Dean Butters, I mean that one has to be just the emotional impact of the the bullying and the abuse, and then even a video where he mocked a very well known Christian leader because she was getting married in midlife for the first time and mocking her for never having sex before. And his email says, it seems we are being targeted. . Thats what the weight was. Also, if youre in the market for a car, I encourage you to check out my friends at Marquardt of Barrington. And I got the text. Thanks for a thoughtful, educated, godly response. When I did, I told her letters were coming in, would she consider writing it. Pastor James MacDonald. "I was sitting in the back seat. The Roys Report seeks to foster thoughtful and respectful dialogue. I had, of course, people from Harvest who had heard it, sending me sending me clips. That way youll never miss an episode. The fruit which was souls coming to Christ was enormous. And we would be loved, it would actually be a loving thing for us to do. . And we already know the answer: the men are in charge no matter what and despite their failings and abuses. And were like, boy, I hate to say this, but that just felt demonic. So those letters, and I just, I had to thank you, Dan, because those letters may have never reached the full elder board had you not push the issue. This is James said what he said. And the pain is overwhelming. Because they stood up to James or they just tried to walk away quietly because they couldnt they couldnt stomach what was going on any any longer. I just thought, yeah. To donate, Lead Pastor and Exec Team of ARC Megachurch Resign Amid Allegations of Bullying and Financial Misconduct, EXCLUSIVE: Dozens Say ARC Megachurch Pastor Bullied and Shamed Staff, Volunteers, James MacDonald Preaching at ARC Megachurch in Arizona, Why Businessman Peter Chung Matters for the Future of The Kings College. Please dont read something into a story thats not there. Again, youre seeing it from a total other perspective where Im the bad guy, James is a good guy. In June, he posted a picture with 2022 GOP gubernatorial nominee Kari Lake. We STILL confuse sex and gender, which leads to conflating a lot of issues when discussing this. uterus or clean out a womb after a stillbirth (because these treatments are labeled abortions, and even that word brings out comments like yours). He was in Walk in the Word studios apparently, and said some really vile things, including, you know, joking about putting child porn on a computer, joking about me having an affair with a Christianity Today editor, which has no basis in fact whatsoeve. Church, Ministry News Not saying anything about the about the men in the room, but that becomes unwieldy. I know its your hope too, Dan, and I just want to thank you. And Stetzer is a huge, huge part of the crooked machine. We knew I needed to do it. Opinion: What is Revivaland is it Happening at Asbury? Ill tell you on that Saturday, there were, we took a break, because it was a long meeting. If you went back to when the Elephants Debt was launched, I think this is telling. No One Knows. This wasnt anything else. And and again, I got out of this like so unbelievably easily. So these letters, and this is what I found really riveting about your story, is when these letters were first given, as you said, they were given to pastors, with the exception of Sandys letter that went directly to you. Whether he was going to resign or have an opportunity to resign or, you know, terminate his employment was to be determined at that point. So he did that. June 17, 2021 James MacDonald, the former megachurch pastor who's been embroiled in scandal and controversy for several years, is lashing out against independent journalist Julie Roys. We had a group of Pastors who interviewed him and he gave us free tickets to his Straight Up conference. But he starts arguing process. So far, I feel the leadership of my current church embodies this well. I payed for you and James. The audio recording that the elders reference was aired on popular Chicago radio personality Mancow Muller's show.Muller, once a trusted friend and confidant of MacDonald and also a member of Harvest Bible Chapel, has used his platform recently to call the pastor out on his less-than-exemplary handling of his critics. And James, recently, in this video that he posted, said that there was an elder, in these meetings, he says, its very, very disparagingly who, who was holding his Bible and kept reading scripture. I say this as a Christian who was taken to task by Christian doctors who told me of all sorts of cases that are not as the woman loved murdering her baby as many pro-life conservatives want everyone to believe. And there was a group and we had two prayer meetings of people who had been former elders, staff people who have gone on the record with me. Yes, I agree. And I turned to Scripture, and I went to Psalm 32, where you know, the companion to Psalm 51, where Davids writing. Its almost like he got a bit weird with elephant conference and his new ministry associations as he left the Gospel Coalition and jumped into the Prosperity group. Come out of her, my people. Well, and I remember, I remember this whole thing, because Im getting bits and pieces from different sources about whats going on and whats happening. Harvest didnt know what it looked like to not have him as a senior pastor. Am I right? She sends it to me and I wrote it. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. It was the elders failure. I just knew the Lord made it clear I had to do it. to anyone whos been a part of, of what went on. I dont believe God makes mistakes when creating us a certain sex. And remember, a week before the decision had been made, in terms of not qualified as an elder and his employment would be over. 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