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These later T's often went into stock as "Scopeless" - a rifle in a transit chest as a spare part - awaiting a need and the addition of a scope and bracket - plus all the other CES. The new model became the Magazine, Lee Enfield Mk1 or MLE Mk1 in 1895. The Savage-Stevens Co. of Chicopee Falls, Massachusetts, made approximately 1.25million No. The demand of new ENFIELD 303 NO 4 MK I rifle's has risen 8 units over the past 12 months. 4 bayonets. Any stock of the P14 cheek pieces would have been transferred to the 4T program - first built by Enfield Lock and then by Hollands - it is not clear when these transitioned to new made cheek pieces. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. Hammer Women Of Distinction Award, Women's Wildlife Management / Conservation Scholarship, National Youth Shooting Sports Cooperative Program, Exploded View: Short, Magazine Lee-Enfield, Mk III, 'A Grisly Business:' Australias Lee-Enfield Sniper Rifle, Reviving An Enfield: RTIs Imported No. Before the war, Prince-Smith was a manufacturer of machinery for making woolen textiles. Apart from the markings as stated above, you should take note of the woodwork. This is a Lee Enfield No. II*, with approximately 161,026 reported produced, during 19421943. Along with the manufacturers name both the date of manufacture and the type and mark of the rifle is also shown. !o, I am hoping to get some help confirming or disproving my theory about this 1963 Indian furbished Lee Enfield No4 Mk1* I bought a few days ago. A few were parkerized at the Long Branch factory later in the war, but these examples are few and far between. When the number sequence reached 9999 the next letter assigned to the factory would be substituted in place of the former. The left side of the receiver is marked "NO 4 MK 1*". He also indicated that P.S.S. It does appear to have been sent thru a re-furbishing and re-build at some time in its life by all the markings not made by Savage. 4 bayonet evolved (or devolved), with each generation becoming more crude and cheaper to manufacture. Over the years I have received many emails regarding serial numbers. Even the spring plunger is a stamping. long by 0.8125in. "1951" and broad arrow proofmark, Cover (Inside): "P.S.S. 4 Mk. Little is known about these British No. 4Mk. The box label indicates that these were packed July 8, 1957, at the 5th Storage Depot, Moncton, New Brunswick. 4 Mk. Howard & Bullough converted from the manufacture of cotton spinning machines to the production of shells, gun carriages, mine sinkers, aircraft components, and bayonets. No fluff here is the real guff on the #4 mk1 : No4 MkI - All About Enfields and another Britains Lee Enfield No 4 Rifle - History By Cammack happy reading ,Try find a British made one you know its going to be far better than some copy from over the water Broadarrow Well-Known Member Oct 30, 2018 #7 ''Parkerised'' Long branch nO 4 1943 went up to 'BL'. SMLE rifle manufacturers were given no serial ranges to begin or end production with, so it is possible that two rifles may exist with the same serial number produced at different factories. Method III It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice! Cure Date: AA5081". The "circle-PSK" marking is somewhat of a mystery and is seldom encountered. So I would say the "S" mark can be used for verification of a real rifle but it is not the main course of study. The socket was forged by Viners Ltd. In the British war time contract scheme there were 2 phases of demarcation - early / pre-war marks, and later regionalized contractor codes, For mid 1943 and down you are seeking the early war markings from Singer (SM), after that seek the regional producer code (S69 - for Southern region, 69th contractor). APEX Gun Parts is your source for hard to find gun parts, parts kits, and accessories. Spike: C-Broad Arrow acceptance mark (electropenciled). The No. But the persistent zero problem became an annoyance. deeply-struck "s" The last year observed on these sights using the SM mark is 1943 as per the right hand example, then the S69 code is used - again on major components (sight ladder (top left of the face), cursor (left side), elevation screw (top) and elevations screw nut (back). 1 Mk III or III*, with the original MLE and LEC becoming obsolete along with the earlier SMLE models. All Enfield Rifles below are proofed and shoot ready. The butt stock above was taken from a real BSA No4T - it is clearly a service replacement - but not by a British armorer - the serial number for the rifle is stamped with 2 sets of numbers - on 3/8" and the other 1/4" - rather crookedly. The very first Maltbys and BSA's produced their own and used the associated early marks for each (large B for BSA, stylized M for Maltby). If the * on the receiver ring was on a No.1, it would mean the action had 'pitting or rust'. The No. That`s a No4 Mk1* made by Savage for England in the days of WW 2. He was born in 1921 and later served as a navy corpsman in Japan and Korea. A listing of British and Commonwealth bayonet markings is available on Bryan Browns Old Military Markings Web site. The beechwood furniture is smooth, bright and unblemished. It carries the scabbard with the frog stud inwards, where belt frogs almost universally carry scabbards frog stud outwards. The No. No. So usually to get the old barrel off I cut a groove relief just forward of the receiver to relieve the pressure. Top to bottom an . LEE ENFIELD NO. My thought is its a Savage No4 Mk1* lend lease made in 1942, It has the ( S ) markings and machine marks, The receiver, barrel . 0000013021 00000 n
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BRITISH or CANADIAN WWII ENFIELD SLING or BREN used cond. British Armourers would change the butt stock out for damage and sniper preference reasons - so true rifles often have different butt stock features other than the presence of a cheek piece - in the cold war era they were allegedly ordered to add all missing marks. 4 Mk. 1944 Enfield No.4 Mk1*(T) Long Branch TP Sniper Rifle Serial # 74L0318 (Converted by Long Branch Arsenal, Ontario, Canada) c/w matching Telescopic, Sighting C No.32, Mk.I(TP) (Trade Pattern) Scope Serial # 4392S (Mfg by Lyman-Alaskan) . British No4 rifles were set up with a 5 digit serial number system with 1XXXX being allotted to Maltby, 2XXXX Fazakerley, 3XXXX BSA Shirley. Lee Enfield books by Ian Skennerton - Ideal reference information Buy Now Of other interest - Wood and other Metal marks / stamps. "F.F. 0000012831 00000 n
The No. Since the overall length is 46", it will fit many other rifles. I sniper variants. The front loop is for the forward hand - I like to use it to press the hand against the fore stock to enhance that firm fore-end grip that Enfield like - this front loop can also be adjusted for length to allow the right tautness from biceps to rifle body when in position. Piece of cake rebarreling the old No4. The Lee-Enfield rifle was first adopted by the British as a military arm in 1895 and . Some DP markings on non load bearing parts. The bayonet exhibits better finishing than most British No. 2 mm. %%EOF
You must be rich. These bayonets equipped the 2ndNew Zealand Expeditionary Force. What is the letter to the right of the 'X' (proof mark) above the M.1944? I picked this Enfield up for 250$. Wartime guns all had letter prefixes, but each. 5 Mk I (for example, Savage or Along with this will be the model designation, and below this, the serial number. Lee-Enfield rifle 303 No.4 Mark 1. The stocks of British manufactured examples are typically a naturally seasoned English walnut that has a moderately dark brown color and has a tight, straight grain. 0
An additional 1944 Wrist / Action stamping group - an excellent condition example. The rifle pictured here is a No. Stock No: 7B/546 In the case of Savage Stevens the serial numbers began with a 0C1 and for Long Branch 0L1, these serials progressed in sequence directly relating the serial number to the number of rifles produced. The sling worked well enough in dry / sunny climates like Africa and Italy, but in the UK training camps and northern Europe they were found to be "slippy" to use and needing lots of preservative (Dubbin) to survive the wet conditions. GI#: 102214907. Scabbard (frog stud): "Bg" over Crown-JF proofmark. How to Use Classifieds - PLEASE READ FIRST ! I, with the bayonet and socket one solid forging. Canadian Arsenals, Ltd. was the post-war successor to Long Branch. All matching numbers. No4 mk1 is stamped on the side of the reciever. The remnants of the wartime marking are lined through and the new marking applied above. II* bayonets were produced, over a million of which were produced by Prince-Smith. 4 was 44 12" long, weighed 8 lbs., 11 ozs., and had been adopted in 1939 to replace the Short, Magazine Lee-Enfield (SMLE)renamed the No. I don't see any other markings, but the paint is quite heavy, so there . 30,000 rod forgings. Although troops often resorted to more expedient means of modifying frogs to retain No. Hosted by Andy H. Gruff, I don't know but will check mine when I get home tonight and report in if it is on mine. J'aime Je n'aime pas : Lee Enfield No4 Mk1 vs Armes modernes en .308 : Page 1 sur 1: Sujets similaires. I will have to check through Skennerton tonight. The Belgian Army transitioned to the FN Model 1949 rifle beginning in 1951. Method: 1 Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for British Lee Enfield No. 4Mk. Rifle Serial Numbers were put on the box that all the parts of a subject rifle were taken from and stored in while it was being converted. 4 Mk. by verdenpark 26 Mar 2012, 07:11, Post mark) on a scopeless 1944 BSA. 1 Mk. The socket is fabricated by welding together seven sheet steel stampings, eliminating the socket forging process altogether. The No. This example was made in the USA by the Savage Stevens Co. of Chicopee Falls, Massachusetts. The rifle Savage produced was the Lee-Enfield No.4 Mk.1*, a British military design that was adopted by the U.K. just a few years before World War II began. No4 Mk1 - DP - A safety lesson 2012: A DP marked rifle fired without first being completely dismantled or inspected after purchase by a new owner. II*, with approximately 84,566 reported produced from 19431945. 4 Mk. The other day I bought a No.4 mk1 Lee Enfield from a gun shop and I need some help identifying it. 4Mk. It is a bolt action repeating rifle with a 10 round box magazine and free floating barrel, and is chambered for the venerable Mk.VII ammunition in .303 caliber. Welcome to the forum. For official references, usually the finished and issued rifle was tracked by its rack number and of course these records have long since been destroyed or lost forever. Sheffield Steel Products produced approximately 670,000 Mk. A general guide for military surplus rifles, pistols, and ammunition. The other details such as maker, model, and FTR are on the left side of the receiver, either very lightly stamped, or engraved with an electric pencil. 4 bayonets. Plastic Mk. Early No4 rifles were produced with the micrometer sight by the rifle manufacturer (Enfield Lock - "E over D" for the Trials rifles). Upon firing the wood instantly fractured and burns resulted, and although serious injury was possible, the owner was lucky this time. This symbol is similar to the Australian Defence Dept. Speculation is that it may be a prototype from a design proposal that was not adopted. WIth the No4T there are still a couple of ways to do this - long length of either sling forward or rearward - depending on your stature and preference for adjustment. by verdenpark 23 Mar 2012, 07:54, Post Prior to obtaining independence in 1946, Jordan was a British Protectorate, known as Transjordan. The No. Another dimension is whether to use (or if it is fitted) to include the front trigger guard triangular sling swivel (included in the factory build from Nov 1944 onwards and added by armourers as found after). 4Mk. II bayonets packaged in a cardboard carton. Enfield Rifle For Sale. Serial Numbers, Model, Mark and Manufacture Identification, Serial Number and Manufacturer Information Locations. Here's a picture of a maltby 1943 with a similar 'M' as yours, before the 1943: Sujet: Re: Lee Enfield No4 Mk1 vs Armes modernes en .308 Aujourd'hui 20:28: Pour en possder une, j'ai une tikka T3x tac en 308 , et 600m ft un temps les rsultats taient prometteurs . This is stamped on the band: 1943 A L 1 1385 Also on the rear barrel band it is stamped VNS with a little crown underneath of it and there is an I stamped on the front sight guard. JavaScript is disabled. Four scabbard designs saw significant use with the No. The volume of serial number inquiries has prompted me to fashion this page together and try and explain how best to identify a particular rifles manufacturer. "AM/712" indicates procurement via an Air Ministry (RAF) contract. Home Articles Guns & Parts Suppressors Optics & Thermals Ammunition Gear News & Opinion Columns Museums & Factory Tours ID Guides Interviews Event Coverage Articles by Issue Volume 1 V1N1 (Oct 1997) V1N2 (Nov 1997) V1N3 (Dec 1997) V1N4 (Jan 1998) 4 bayonets went to New Zealand. II* bayonets. The labelling indicates that this No. The No. I bayonet was short, light, sturdy, and unappealing. The Belgians received Lee-Enfield No. Smith & Wesson's new M&P FPC is a compact, folding pistol-caliber carbine chambered in 9 mm Luger and designed to accept the company's M&P handgun magazines. I've been privileged to shoot Lee-Enfield rifles before and have always found them to be worthy of their reputation as well built, accurate rifles. 0000013061 00000 n
Sheffield Steel Products of Sheffield, Yorkshire. I scabbards were made in the USA. The used value of an ENFIELD 303 NO 4 MK I rifle has fallen ($61.94) dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $563.89 . 4 Mk 1* (T) rifle in .303 British made by Savage in 1942. The new rifle was well regarded by the troops receiving them. startxref
Unfired and as clean and bright as the day it was born in the Fazakerley Royal Ordnance Factory in Liverpool in 1954. The easiest way to identify a "Jungle Carbine" rifle is to look for the markings on the left hand side of the receiver; a genuine No. I like using the triangular sling swivel to deliberately tighten the sling around my hand to grip the fore-end when using a shooting glove, Lee Enfield books by Ian Skennerton - Ideal reference information, Genuine Lee Enfield No4 Mk1 T Parts, Features, Marks and Accessories, Here we have a scopeless and virtually unfired 1945 No4T on the left and an "active service" No4T on the right that had its last service with India, other than the metal being painted with lumpy glossy black paint it is predominantly unchanged, On the left, the scopeless one exhibits all marks as freehand stamps through the blackened surface. British Enfied rifle No.4 in action protecting a Bren gunner. I* (T) were the standard WWII sniper rifles for the British and for the Commonwealth, except for Australia. The following makers' codes are noted on some bayonet blades and scabbards, it is quite possible that they may also appear on firearms and related components. Free shipping on many items | Browse your favorite brands | affordable prices. The Lee Enfield No 4 Rifle Mk 1 was produced by a variety of different manufacturers in England. The Canopy in Ellicott City - Totally Cool With OC, Still openings for this Saturday's York IWLA Funshoot, Buy, sell, and trade in the classified section, Chat with Local gun shops, ranges, trainers & other businesses, View up to date on firearm-related events. The company was established on the bombed out site of the South East London Indoor Sports Club (destroyed in the blitz bombings of 194041), solely to make bayonets. The No. P.S.K. I have encountered some post-war (commercial?) Here is a simple shadow board depicting the 4 most common Enfields. Singer produced 1,141,782 No. You must log in or register to reply here. Genuine early BSA marked T rear sight (reconditioned / polished scale face): When the war expedient models were produced (initially with the "L" flip sight, then those selected for conversion to T status had to have the rear sight replaced with a modified micrometer sight (H&H indicated this had been done by stamping the "S" on the front of the right receiver wall ( this happened to most, but not all!) So a genuine Savage rear sight converted to T format by H&H is possible on an early 1941 converted and war time used rifle and on a late 1945 scopeless rifles and in between when added to BSA rifles that had the L flip sight from the factory - Savage provided a lot of micrometer sights for this purpose. The Short, Magazine Lee Enfield (SMLE) delivered sterling service from the mud of Flanders to the farthest reaches of the Empire. Based on a 1944 Maltby rifle. I have a couple of No.4 Mk.I's, and they do not have anything like the makings shown. Not too mention it looks better with the walnut furniture over the birch. In 1939, the British soldier was still armed with the same rifle his father, or perhaps even his grandfather, carried. No. The factory was built by working around the clock during 1942 and was provided with capstans, drilling and milling machines, centre lathes, a steel-hardening and processing plant, and a centre-less grinding machine. I now own one and some of your information is a little off. Enfield MK1 S.M.L.E.303 British 24' barrel 1905 production This. Very good 5 groove barrel. 4 MK 1 and retained its original chambering in .303 British. Production occurred during the latter half of 1941 and into the early months of 1942. The maker is unknown, but is believed to be Belgian. II* its characteristic stepped join between blade and socket. Due to similarities with Indian Government acceptance marks, this was once thought to possibly indicate Indian service. Many minor variations in parts are present across the different manufacturers and for the different years that the rifles were produced. ,DTvb5@ kg:v%A$6%#,6J,q]+9
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Singer continued using a similar markings, as used on the Mk. The British MoD was running short of scope brackets and cheek pieces as it started the L42 service extension program so new surplus examples are rare on the ground. Four firms produced the No. BO 12151 (the five digit no. There must have been a lot of them to survive 2 world wars and all the action and attrition they were exposed to. An increasing consensus is that this simply may be a viewer's mark, as this mark seems only to be found on Baird No. Something that looks like 12C456 or 12L345. Rifles are in good to very good original condition and ready to fire. Is, until the government created the dispersal codes in 1943. These war time sling swivels were made by Hollands and are typically browned steel. 7B/1005/21/103/1147 The leather belt frog is of unknown origin. 4 MK. These come for the Lee-Enfield No.4 MK1. 0000002767 00000 n
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