Christophe & Montigny Clment-Neumann CONTACT. Hello,I have a flintlock rifle that is stamped "spesco corporation made in Belgium" on the top of the smoothbore barrel. It's as useful in a duck blind as it is . Hammers cock and function properly. Locks are scroll engraved and marked "J. Manton & Co.". 1848. Call Mick direct on 07970 239211 - Or dial 0044 7970 239211 if calling from outside the UK | MicksGuns343@gmail.com So the only indicator of the chamber depth is found with the stamp of the Chamber dimensions? Proof Marks or "Proofs" as they are sometimes referred to have changed over time, therefore assisting in dating the arm. HI, John. Good overall condition. Due to the SCH or EC is abbreviations of the powder: SCH meaning Schultze. For sale is a unique old Damascus steel Very large double barrel 10 ga shot gun. Locks are scroll engraved and marked "C. G. Bonehill". Each gunmaker is presented with the maximum Audio Books & Poetry; Computers, Technology and Science; Music, Arts & Culture; News & Public Affairs; . The gun has 72 cm barrels and weighs only 2,8 Kg. 7. . The company built side-by-side double barrel shotguns throughout WW2. . Closset J.M. Thanks so much. Collings Hadelin On barrels of breechloading shotguns after final black powder proof. Early double barrel hammer shotgun. Bury is a typical belgian Boxlock gun in 16/65 with 66 cm barrels and a weight of only 2,6 Kg. Belgian Liege gunmakers (A to C) - Volume 1 By Alain Daubresse This printed and hardbound book, written in English and French by Alain Daubresse, provide an extensive insight about the gunmaking activity in Belgium from its very beginning to the middle of the 20th century. significance or purpose. The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time. Stock is walnut and has some repairs at the wrist. BY TYPE. Also on the chamber there are three marks, one which I have not been able to identify, but appears to be provisional proof? Hammers cock and function properly. Bores are excellent. Barrels are 32". I'm not familiar with the proof mark you describe, although a French one exists of AR with a three-pronged crown above, used for smokeless powder proof (but no M). 3 into Europe is unknown. Some sharp photos might help; send them to (ghcox3@gmail.com). and BELGIUM had a glut of old, obsolete flint lock and percussion gun parts left over from years past. Colt Model 1839. Debouxthay was a gunmaker in Liege, Belgium, active at least from 1888-1904. And I have a photo taken at Winchester, TX with Maj. Thomas Doan during the Dusty March, July 1863, Dechard, TN. Shotgun Serial #1656 - early production made 1903-1939 - by Fabrique Nationale in Belgium with Browning patent dates ]v8 >ZX 2Fu}) Serial: 40593. John Browning's Auto-5 set the bar for semi-automatic shotguns. COMPARE. View all posts by Wolfgang von Brauchitsch , TOY FOR A BOY DREYSE TESCHING from 1894. %PDF-1.3 American Gunsmiths by Sellers, and American Gun Makers by Gluckman & Satterlee list American makers. Manufactured in the 1860's. Original butt plate is very good, no chips or cracks. Bazin F.J. A handsome and unusual shotgun. Walnut stocks are good with some field wear. stream Very good overall condition. The 16-in-a-circle indicates the nominal gauge of the shotgun and the 16/1 shows that the actual diameter of the bores was between .662" and .669". The only other markings I have seen are along the length of thr barrel \ \/ | . The date stamps is not used on all guns, otherwise that is the most accurate. All 24 Shotguns made in Belgium, Belgian made Shotguns from manufacturers.name.include? Good examples of the information that can be derived from adequate images. Beuret Frres Other makers include Lebeau Courally and Mahillon. American gun makers including Supplement of AMerican gun makers Item Preview remove-circle Share or Embed This Item. Any idea what it all means? Barrels are 33". The second J. Courard N. The size of this book of 232 pages Rib is marked "Vicente Arizmendi Eibar". Shotguns became popular after the U.S. Army used them during the First World War while close-range fighting in trenches. listed in alphabetical order. The Browning website features a page where you can search for your firearm's serial number or click on the model to locate the serial number. It's very old but I'd like to know more about it. 3 was 33 grains = 3 Dram Equivalent Bulk Smokeless powder and was introduced into the U.S. of A. in 1904. Receiver has original case colors in protected areas. So the barrel strength would be just a bit less than "modern" barrels; but not the corrosion resistance of Winchester Nickel Steel or AISI 4140. Black powder proof for rifles and shotguns. The Modern Shotgun. Revolving Carbine / Shotgun. . I can send pictures of it. "Cueruy" could be the maker. Paypal, Order Bury was famous for his double rifles and also built the legendary Super Britte. Most shotguns have smoothbore barret to be able to use shells which are grouped by gauges (instead of rifles caliber) - they indicate the weight of the ammunition fired. Thank y'all for your help ahead of time! Can you add any details? The English Goldsmiths Marks from 1400 to 1900 ~ 11000 Makers Marks and Hallmarks from ENGLAND, SCOTLAND, AND IRELAND ~ RARE Reference Book For Collectors Over 700 pages, Collectors and dealers will by the aid of this work be enabled to locate and fix the date of much English, Scottish and Irish plate, and to identify many marks which have been These might cursive as well. Locks are marked "W.J Harvey". This printed Stocks are good with minor nicks and dings. Barrels when disasembled are marked with Belgian proofs near chambers. Do check with a gunsmith before you shoot it! Engraving on lock and hamer are faint. There's no indication of chamber length--but that didn't begin until 1892.The other marks I can't identify.So what can I tell you? Baltus - Wilmotte We do not sell any of the items showcased on this site. I have a Belgium 38-40 with a 7 in barrel all matching. Good overall condition. Hey I have a F. Dumoulin & Co. 12 gauge side by side with double hammers. Belgian Liege gunmakers (D to F) - Volume 2. Do you have any knowlege of pinfire double barrels? Stock has an old crack at heel. Clment Charles Philibert Whatever type of shotgun you want to add to your collection, you can be sure to find just what you're looking for here. Sent from my SM-J727V using Tapatalk Aug 26, 2020 #3 Here ya go! Category:Firearm manufacturers of Belgium - Wikipedia Category:Firearm manufacturers of Belgium Help Belgium portal Aggregate of articles pertaining to firearms manufacturers in Belgium . William Moore 7 Co. As I've said, I'm not an expert. Very fine sidelock double with 34 Damascus barrels. The crown R and star P stamped on the barrel, receiver, and cylinder. Very good overall condition. Share to Twitter. Butt plate is horn, no cracks. Example of inspectors mark, any letter can be used with a crown. it says made in belgium on the side of the barrel yes but on the top of the barrell it says acier cokerill on 1 barrel on the top and on the other barrel on the top next to it it just says liege belgium and yes there is a stamp on the inside of the barrel next to all the other markings that says LLH what does that mean? ~JP2lLn)wMO(;%vvRnS>2sw~zG!D""L0MW#+J%d)g"#Q4H&D4&KdU_};g|CN>Is>X&'vqFc&Pkr3EjZ1M&|dv55*6GI?/cOra#2K;cW>rLFtgtycw^4RiK-myVS[${XZw ho"=^f%DeiG wPnD6#diqSg].GI24?>.0 ?~wXy$6Sd3Ln2IdLL_#6)G7OE)7igF. 14. Christophe Henri Ateliers Saint Laurent, Bauwir Joseph If you can, send me a photo: ghcox3@gmail.com.Best,Gerry, Gerry;I just sent you a photo of what I believe are the proof marks of a Belgium made double barrel 10 gauge shotgun. Bastin Frres Damascus barrels are 32". I can't tell if it was proved for nitro: those have a lion over the PV. Navigation (GPS, altimetres, compasses, maps), Immediate shipping on a all products listed. The New E.C. Berleur Michel Belgian Liege gunmakers (G to K) - Volume 3 The text is written in French AND English. Collard Henri - Roux Jacques Good overall condition. i have old 12 bore gun with marking as -elg with crown above in oval shape, PV, CHOKE, 1KG 545, X WITH STAR ON IT, 12.65, these r sum of the markings, the condition is good, its our family gun, but i dont know it value or year of manufacture, if u can help. Circa 1880's. Side by side shotguns of this era are highly collectable and our inventory changes frequently. It has punched on one side of barrel 17.2, on the other side punched JC, EL ,pinfire symbol, K and crown on its top, E LG little crown under them in oval.Please help me to get the closest identification for this nice firearm. I recently decided to clean it up. Cap Joseph Andr M.J. The book Damascus barrels are 36". 14 Designates guns with rifled chokes. I picked this up a few years ago in the bargain bin at a gun shop. Colot Their total production was around 180,000 guns. Chaumont M.J. Good overall condition. Smokeless powder proof of military rifles until 1903, thereafter indicates nitro proof for all types of arms. JavaScript is disabled. Today, Belgian firearms designer Francotte builds famed double barreled shotguns and fine rifles. Generally, but not always, Belgian made guns will have a bit lower value ("ELG" proofmark indicates a Belgian made gun. One of the lesser known of the Belgian handgun makers was Jean Warnant but he was a creative designer and the British Thornton's Patent for a double action revolver lock work was actually originally his idea for which he applied for a patent in Belgium in 1874 and that patent was granted in 1875. (Improved) Nr. It could be of relatively recent manufacture. Until 1894, stamped in .02mm graduations, then in 0.1mm steps, Degree of choke, in this case 0.7mm constriction. Variant of the one above, used for some month in 1894 and sometimes later on Not for ball, indicates that the barrel has choke. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for (STGUN52) Advert5x4" For Reliability Always Choose Laurona, Gunmakers, Spain at the best online prices at eBay! It's an old Belgian made SXS 12 gauge, marked "Lancaster Arms Co." From doing a little research on the proof marks, I think it was made sometime just pre-WWI. Hammers cock and function properly. Share to Reddit. Do check with a gunsmith before you shoot it! Thanks for any help you can offer.Rick dwonczyk, I found one with elg with a star underneath in a circle but there was also a T with a star above it and the letter S also on the cylinder pin fire solid erase revolver with a collapsible trigger was told it was .31, Hi, Rick. + 10-14% by piezoelectric transducer measurement. Hammers cock and function properly. Very long barrel. "The Best Damn Gunshop in the World" SN:18761. Locks are marked Charles Daly and are scroll engraved. But of course he also made quite normal guns for the average hunter. Since 1924 used on all rifled arms. I can't ID the 'RM', who was likely the barrel maker. Side by side with 28" damascus barrels and hammers. cardboard cover and the paper used for the printing was of the high glossy type and Area Code: 804. Does it reach the touch hole? Very good overall condition. The 1136 is engraved on the bottom of the barrel. Britte Frres Thank y'all again! Can't help much w/o some photos (send to ghcox3@gmail.com). Charlier Ch. Nowadays these firearms are mostly used for hunting or kept at home for self-defence. He was registered with the Liege Proof House from 1896 to 1947. Antique Shotguns (Pre-1899): Belgian Shotguns, Side by Side Shotguns, Our inventory of antique shotguns is made up of shotguns manufactured before 1899, including English, French, and Belgian shotguns. Barrel is 31" marked "London Fine Twist". Colt Firearms Comblain Hubert Joseph 1890. With 26-inch open-choked barrels, it is a 6.5 pound delight. Any maker's name on the rib between the barrels?Best,Gerry, 1902 a greener twobarrel it has hh on botten of barrel what do i have. OldGuns Newsletter . Once tested and successful the weapon was stamped with a seal to acknowledge the testing - called "Proof Marks". It could be almost anything: an English Greener, which would have Birmingham, England, proof marks, or it could be a double of dubious origin. 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