Good allies can be helpful to overwhelm them. East Africa is a great target. If you are humanist support rebels in suppressive countries, if you are an absolute monarchy destroy the revolution. You can take small coastal ports when you peace out their allies to gain an early foothold. Its useful for you to grab important Caucasus provinces early. Meanwhile, you shouldve gotten Sicily sieged down by now. Keep a continuous Spy network on Tunis to expand faster towards the Atlantic coast. What can you guys suggest? Note: Be smart about who you declare war on. Now that youre the Caliphate, the world truly lies at your feet. Slowly head towards Samarkand by expanding Ajam. Stay at war until they lose Egypt, Syria, and Greece. Dont give them land though, thatd be a waste of your precious war score. They have claims on the provinces, which means that if they get the siege, you wont be able to take it in the peace deal. From your base in Morocco and Spain, it shouldnt be hard for you to break your alliance with France and declare war on them. Move your army in position and declare war to retake a Transylvanian core like Hunyad. With everyone on different sides, and AI sucks at doing multi front wars, Ottoman will usually go for one country instead of everyone at once, allowing the rests of the nations to siege freely. Yeah, they like doing that. You can attack the Spanish head-on, but this might bring in some difficult allies. Cav are kinda weak at techs 14 to 16, making their cav combat ability less scary (they also miss a cav upgrade at 14). However, history wont stop us! Another front for you to not worry about! This campaign in EU4 is designed around a slower playstyle by myself, Chewy, and doing my best to explain the basics of EU4 while building upon them through actual gameplay. Just make sure you can control your allies, and that their armies aren't so small as to be wiped instantly by the Ottoman hordes. They hit a mid game power peak typically that's hard to beat, this is not the best time to try fighting them. Otto was huge though and Lithuania was getting routed, but I knew that was going to happen. However, by the logic that the enemy of my enemy is my friend, I reached out to a powerful historical ally of the Ottomans France makes a perfect ally in this scenario. Make sure you are not behind their mil tech level or you will be destroyed, as such it's recommended you weaken them early, They tend to pick a discipline advisor to combo with their 5% discipline tradition, recommend to get as much morale as you can, Use terrain/good generals to your advantage, Get as many good alliances as possible but never declare if they are behind the ottomans in mil tech, You can deny their cores, which is one of the main sources of their strength, You can call a crusade against them if you're the pope which can give you good bonuses. Take all the provinces you need for the Caliphate to finally realize the unification of Islam. The more of it is under your control, the less will be under the control of the Spanish. They dont grant permanent claims, so only do them when youre ready to attack Hungary once more. Its a lengthy process for sure, but use the guide as a reference point to guide yourself through the ages. In my case, Hungary got into a war with Austria, which saw both their units occupied. I am playing as Venice , Ironman, Beta 1.13 . Remember to enact the fortification edict on all provinces containing a fort, especially in your capital. Just take the province when you fight a war with the state that happens to own it, like Sindh or Gujarat. For your finances throughout this run, trade is instrumental. Then, take 100% worth of war score demands on top of those rebel enforcements, including annulling their treaties. Works better if you have a fleet to block the straight, e.g. If you annex them, you can no longer get the -10% Aggressive Expansion bonus. So their tech 12 infantry are the same pips as western tech 15, giving you parity, until tech 19 when you can edge ahead. Naval superiority would be a good idea if you can get it against the Ottos, to try and prevent the bosphorus and dardanelles crossing. Build up your naval forces if you are uncertain of your navys ability, takeNaval Ideasto give yourself an edge. In this area, you may want to expand recklessly to the point that it nearly breaks your nation. You can also expand into the Horn of Africa at this point in time. Take forts. By now, the Ottomans are a powerhouse that dominates the Middle East and the Eastern Mediterranean. Ottomans declared war on me, me and austria had 32k troops in a mountain province, Ottomans attacked with 17k, absolutely destroyed us with their garbage general while we both had 3 star generals. Moreover, it will anger our next target of expansion: Tunis. As others have mentioned, you can beat quantity with quality. Is there a way to actually defeat the Ottomans? Which, if any, DLC do you have? When you fight with the Mamluks, make sure to expand into Saudi Arabia, towards Medina and Yemen. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. and since my goals are quite small and achievable I usually. . A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Europa Universalis IV by Paradox Development Studio. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Occupy all provinces except one. You must log in or register to reply here. This campaign in EU4 is designed around a slower playstyle by myself, Chewy, and doing my best to explain the basics of EU4 while building upon them through actual gameplay. To fully take advantage of their situation, you should wait until they are engaged in a war. You can now also complete the missionConquer the Levantto grant you a bunch more permanent claims all around. Always check whether someone is willingly letting itself be annexed by you. The best way to beat this navy is to snipe their fleets which they like to spread out since Mare Nostrum. Your situation might differ from mine, but I had to deal with a massive Timurids that united all of Persia. Simply take some Spanish lands and repeat after the truce timer runs out. Look around Ottoman. Ally a powerful nation nearby, such as Great Britain or Scandinavia, and snake your way to Paris from a coastal province. Upgrade your centers of trade to turn Constantinople into a powerful trade node while developing your centers of trade. After youve wreaked Havoc in Arabia, Africa, and Persia, its time to confront Spain. Make sure to take the cities ofAdenandMasqatas soon as you can, since you need them to restore the Caliphate. The earlier you consolidate around here, the better it is for you. Arabia shouldnt give you any issues. Give the UlemaUlema Land Rights, the Merchant GuildsMerchand Guild Land Rights, and the DhimmiDhimmi Land Rights. With a strong navy you can win half the war (or more accurately, 25%, because that's what you'll get for fully blockading them). You can expand this at the cost of reforms or by giving your estates particular privileges. I decided to take Crete as well, but not yet more of Dalmatia. Allies are arguably the most important point. When youre already allied, youre giving that country a diplomatic relationship slot anyhow. They are inferior later on. Spain will be the toughest nut youll have to crack in this entire campaign and kind of the final boss of this EU4 Ottomans guide. When dealing with a large nation, core conquest is a very viable tactic. . You basically become unstoppable if you avoid unfavourable offensive terrain battles. Europa Universalis IV starts on November 11th 1444, . Yeah, they aren't the scourge of Christendom for nothing. If your army has at least 20 Janissary regiments or over 20% of the army is Janissaries, and your stability is negative, you may be facing theJanissary Coupdisaster which hurts your technological advancements tremendously. I cant forget to mention the use of trade companies at this point. Even if the Spanish took Ifni, you can take all the provinces in a single war. You should aim to eradicate them by 1550. The Great Horde is a great nation to do this with. If you call Tunis into wars but dont give them any of the lands they may want, theyll always have a truce with Fezzan, but never get to annex it. I just needed to buy enough time to take Tunis/Crete out of the equation. I just don't find it fun to always split my armies, siege a lot of provinces and then consolidate my forces. When dealing with a large nation, core conquest is a very viable tactic. I usually like to set out goals. Play smart, have forts in mountains/hills/swamps. With both of them weakening, I swooped in and strengthened my position in the Balkan. What do I do? to grant you a bunch more permanent claims all around. Congratulations on restoring the Caliphate! Who do the Ottomans have as rivals? If you're a relatively powerful nation like PLC, Hungary, Austria, castille, etc, you can just straight up declare war and beat them before they get big. as soon as you can, since you need them to restore the Caliphate. Particularly as Poland/Commonwealth, which has a nice set of military national ideas. I have a good navy and army but I definitely can't beat them alone. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). In around 225 hours of EU4 I have not once beaten the Ottomans, mind you. Depending on how large the Mamluks are, you can finish them off before 1600. Works better if you have a fleet to block the straight, e.g. While you prepare for a war with Tunis, consolidate your holdings. Spain will be the toughest nut youll have to crack in this entire campaign and kind of the final boss of this, The Ottomans historically had issues expanding into Persia. The best option is to wait for the Ottomans to declare war on some other neighbor. Most nations will want to be your vassal; conquer the remainder. EUIV: AAR's, Let's Plays, and Fan Fiction, EU IV: Alternate History Short Story Contest Contr. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Honestly, when I want to kill them, I just don't stop declaring war. Fezzan may be allied to the Mamluks. With these claims, youll get a great opportunity to expand your holdings when theReligious League Warfires. Late mid-game and late game their troops have become much worse though, and if you play western tech you can usually crush significantly larger Ottoman armies in that period. You can beat them in the early, middle, or late game. Take Crimea. Soon enough, Ottoman Empire was just busy quelling rebellion rising in half the provinces and all I had to do was siege. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Especially if you got France on your side, the Spanish got a bigger fish to fry, so the heartland lies right open. Are the Mamluks still around? Your vassal may have some cores left in my case, Makuria had a core on Dongola, so use that and declare war. All of this conquest you can do diplomatically, but dont be afraid to declare war if you want things to be a little quicker. From there, you can also go back to the southern tip of Arabia and take out the states in Yemen there before youve dealt with the Mamluks in Arabia. But other than that i think army management in Eu4 is nice. Let me know your thoughts in the comments! Not to mention their ability to tech like hell. Basically, you get some strong allies for yourself. They have really high income so privateering in their nodes wouldn't do much. Ally other countries that have navies. Also wipe the troops they will continue building in Europe before they can coalesce into an army. disaster which hurts your technological advancements tremendously. Try to break up their alliances. Dont even consider fighting the Ottomans if you arent allied to several strong nations like Austria, Russia or the Mamluks. I had about 100k troops and France, Austria, Venice, and Brandenburg on my side and we all got crushed, leading me to believe the Ottomans are just naturally supposed to dominate. Engage when you have a clear advantage and use your massive amounts of vassals. The goal is that even when they move their capital into anatolia, they will not have direct land connections to their overseas provinces (hello 75% autonomy), and they won't be able to move across the strait over land without getting mil access from you. You may be able to take the Nile Delta, but this could be too expensive at this time. You can now also complete the mission. I knew espionage as last idea group and I figured it wasn't worth it, but wanted to try it anyway for fun. It's best to strike if they are already in a war. If you have questions do please leave them below and I will answer any and all that I'm able to! THIS CAMPAIGN IS BEST VIEWED THROUGH THE PLAYLIST! Just getting all of the arriving divisions to the front by rail is enough, not to mention everything else. I've read several ways. Here are some of the issues I encountered, as well as how you can act on them, should the situation arise. Note :In The runs with Prussia and Great Britain I beat the Ottomans in the last 10-20 years of the campaign, And another thing that I forgot to mention. The Caucasus mountains provide a valuable defense. Look around Ottoman. If you focus on taking down the Ottomans you can't be giving them respite. This area is very wealthy and contains the Islamic Holy cities of Mekka and Medina. Decent generals, high morale and good army tradition can be of great help. From your base in Morocco and Spain, it shouldnt be hard for you to break your alliance with France and declare war on them. Can you afford mercs? I beat them 2 times , once as Prussia ( it isn't hard to beat them as Prussia ) and as Great Britain ( I allied Russia so Ottomans had to deal with 2 flanks ).My biggest tip for you is that you dont let Ottomans blob too much .I mean if u see them eating the whole of Russia or the whole of PLC , you have to prepare to go to war with them.Get some good generals , some good moral ( something that ottomans dont have ) and some good discipline and you win . Its useful for you to take this before a rising threat, Russia, can show itself. How do you trigger Byzantium being formed? The Ottoman army is pretty bad (compared to Europeans) after mil tech 15. After you declare war on Morocco, focus on landing an army on Sicily and taking down the Spanish and Moroccan holdings in Africa. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Europa Universalis IV by Paradox Development Studio. Although they may be weak, theyre sitting on at least one province we need to restore the Caliphate Cordoba- and they may have taken Sicily, where we need two provinces: Palermo and Messina. If your army has at least 20 Janissary regiments or over 20% of the army is Janissaries, and your stability is negative, you may be facing the. Use them to take a lot of land for cheap, and use Russia to distract the Timurids in the north. By giving them Mosul, I was able to vassalize them. . This part is for those players who are trying to complete the Unify Islam mission, in which you unite all corners of the vast Islamic world under a single Caliphate once more. When you attack a mountain, or a fort, or -worse- a mountain fort, you have a good chance to be defeated. I personally wouldn't ally (all) big nations around the Ottoman. But the amount of micro is through the roof. 33% for ottoman ideas and 50% for quantity. Ottomans tend to move a 50k stack alone , they move it without having some reinforcements nearby.So you can easily attack this 50k stack and maybe stack wipe it. Optimally you want them to release bulgaria. Their military modifiers will be much weaker in the late game usually. By writing about games, he can bring two of his great passions together. They started taking ex-moldavia area and are now beating up Venice, I get what you mean, their base from the provinces is 107 while mine is just 38 :(. We need at least one province deep Persian territory . New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. . Itd give me a serious coalition I dont want to face yet. Conquer the World as the Ottomans etc. their armies are pretty much always superior to any other nations, even when massively outnumbered. Watch if you can either go around it by declaring war on an ally, vassalizing the state instead, or ask it kindly to break its alliance using the Great Power status. And actually, 173k is quite a lot for AI Ottomans in 1609, I think. Not saying quantity is worse, cause quantity is AMAZING for what it does, which is usually worth it for countries with either eh or downright shitty land and therefore economies, but outclassing the Ottomans is the key to victory in this case. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. You can try and hunt down some Ottomans-unique achievements as well. Avoid the war goal on purpose, occupy Constantinople + Turkish provinces only. When you control these cities, you gain the permanent modifier. If you need a repeatable method, dont annex Morocco after youre done. Simply declare war for your permanent claim on Caffa, and take your cores back. Hit them early and try to divide their territory works great. You can run up their war exhaustion very easily. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Upgrade your centers of trade to turn Constantinople into a powerful trade node while developing your centers of trade. I would recommend defensive idea group and drill your armies !!!! You can also take some cash from these extremely wealthy merchant republics. They still haven't taken out mamluks. There're a dozen different factors that go into something like this, and without a photo, it's very difficult to gauge. There we have it the end of our EU4 guide, as we made the Ottomans easy! Make sure to take the cities of. Most nations will want to be your vassal; conquer the remainder. It's actually significantly easier to take the Ottomans down the later you go. Move your army in position and declare war to retake a Transylvanian core like Hunyad. Once they do, you attack. . Siege down weak Tunis (and Ottos if you can), then make Ottos break treaties with all their powerful allies. The guide also assumes that players know the basics of the game, such as constructing buildings, managing armies and finances, and conquering new territory. Take the tribal kingdom to the south as your vassal. I recommend annexing any vassal that has no more foreign cores you can take. The Ottomans are very susceptible to blockades because they have such a big coastline. I declared war on Morocco, which they had guaranteed. Engage when you have a clear advantage and use your massive amounts of vassals. The Ottomans historically had issues expanding into Persia. 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