; Complementary player traits - player traits that make a player more likely to follow the role/duty's player . Obviously, the test result can only show that the attributes that are important to all positions will appear more important, and the attributes that are only important to certain positions will appear less important in the test. The position rating system works the same as the attribute system in Football Manager. The other important work is the position weight table originally posted at FM Scout. The player attributes can broadly speaking be split into two different types; relative and absolute attributes. Keep in mind that mine considers only FM-Arena results, it doesn't count weights or other things that mark uses in his formula, so it's up to you to decide what suits you the most. Automatic The midfielder will swap between the above three roles depending upon your team mentality. I have a very busy weekend unfortunately. OK so I had a quick play with the ratings files. So I downloaded genie scout, uploaded the ratings and everything. I've been picking players with accordance to the attributes rating table for long time and it's been working like a charm to me. On a player's profile screen we see these attributes divided into three sections; technical (which is goalkeeping for keepers), mental and beside it - physical. This shows the testing of each attribute in FM22 and the impact of reducing the attribute score has on results. ZaZ said: @Mark, I made three poor man's version and I would like to know your opinion in which one gives the best results. We use artificial intelligence to study the importance of attributes. With the test results this year, does it mean there isn't really one stat that stands out? Expand Ohh please can you upload as FM suited files??? Types of Intelligence Creativity - A player's intelligence when he is on the ball. What do I mean by this, well have a look at the screenshot below. Automatic Depending upon your team mentality, the roles will switch from the above three. We have detect that you're using an AdBlocker. In addition I have used 2 main tactics, Dragons Breath that uses an MC instead of AMC, and ZaZ Blue DM, but given the ratings files don't all have MC ratings I just used AMC.To answer @ZaZ question the ZaZ-100 ended up equal with MDW in picking 8 of the best 11 positional players. Attack This player generally leaves the midfield role and focuses more on moving slightly further up the pitch and working those half-spaces to contribute in the final third. Sports Interactive, the Sports Interactive logo, in-game generated images and any other Football Manager related items are registered trademarks and/or copyright material owned by Sports Interactive, or their respective trademark and copyright holders. Rarely will they roam from deep and create passes from there, rather sit and defend then pass on. It does need balancing to make it more usable though. He did a test and set all the "unimportant" attributes ( according to the attributes rating table ) to 1 and few important to 20 and he easily won the EPL. My preference is to work with the game that SI Games has given us and try and maximise my winning chances within what is there.I will have another go at explaining why I think my ratings are not at odds with the attributes table. The higher the tactical real CA, the more suitable it is for player selection.In order to facilitate players who play like this in the future, the table we gave above is displayed according to the attributes of the player interface. I learned this from last years attempt. They are best suited in a structured system who have the straight-forward task of anchoring the defense, not being too creative nor dribble essentially as risk free as possible. You can use these filters for comparison of players when you are buying players or to determine the best player for each role in your tactic from your squad. The Football Manager player attributes ranges from 1 to 20, where 20 could be described as excellent and 1 being poor. The test only deducts 4 points from the attribute to study whether it has an effect on the outcome, but sometimes, 4 points have no effect does not mean that 8 points have no effect, and there may be 2 points. For example, 25 to 40 have a gap of 15.Anyone else's opinion would also be appreciated! Attack Similar to the above but they will make their presence more known by forcing the opposition wide player(s) back with their attacking forward movement or overlapping/underlapping runs into the box once laying off the ball to a central player (your tactics permitting of course). Rince said: In FM21 there was some guy on Korean FM forum that won EPL with only 1 CA players. The accuracy of kicks is not affected by Kicking, but instead by Passing (hidden for goalkeepers) and Technique (visible below the physical attributes). Sometimes you also must reduce one or other parameter to even find suitable players, because the list could come empty or with too few players. Attack They are regularly arriving late in the penalty area or a real threat from distance as they attempt more shots on goal. Can you test the three and tell me which one you like the most? Let us know how it goes. Stamhey, just wanted to let you know that we have a fb style chat for our members. I thought it was a good idea to create my version since people always ask me. Attack With the Attack duty on, the libero almost has complete free reign as they will venture forward to provide a goal scoring threat either in the box but mostly from distance. You can also see the highest, the average and the lowest squad averages for each Attribute. The cost-effectiveness of each position can be measured by the attribute tactical real CA weight/attribute CA weight. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Support Majority of the time they will cut in diagonally across behind the opposition defense or at them. For example Acceleration - default PPM was 1.648, reducing Acceleration by 4 points resulted in 1.039 PPM. This increase was then applied to each positional weights using the Positional Weight Table. Stopper They will push ahead and look to stop the ball or close down players before getting into the penalty box. However, unlike standard central defenders - the Wide Centre-Back is encouraged to stay wide in position and support the midfield more like a full back. Copyright 2004-2022 fmscout.com. Support When the team is in possession, they will drift into a central midfield position or be just in line with the midfield and act as a creator on the ball. For example Acceleration - default PPM was 1.648, reducing Acceleration by 4 points resulted in 1.039 PPM. Support Only one real role and that is the duty of a Roaming Playmaker. Please, support us by turning it off for our site. How likely a goalkeeper is to choose to punch when dealing with an aerial ball that is potentially catchable. Looking at and testing through both ratings files from. I hope this helps someone.Enjoy Expand is there on fmscout? Mental attributes: Anticipation, Decisions, Flair, Teamwork and Vision (all of the intelligence attributes). Here are. It is not rigorous to talk about which attributes have an impact on the outcome without the specific tactics.4. All of them try to focus on most important attributes in some way.Version 1: all ratings minus 25 (removes lower ratings and increases % gap of remaining)Version 2: all ratings under 50 minuts 25 (removes lower ratings and keeps gap of top)Version 3: all ratings minus difference to 100 (removes lower ratings and increases absolute gap of remaining)* Gap means the difference in rating between two attributes. Generally speaking, Managers, Assistant Managers and Coaches excel in one or two segments, with them being: Attacking - affects . [Community Challenge] Traits/PPMs For Different Roles! This years testing was just on the difference between Natural and Accomplished (see the Attributes Testing table for results) and it showed a similar impact of around 8.5% penalty this year.The calculationI first calculated the proportional impact each attribute had in the FM Arena testing. Attributes are rated from 1 to 20, with 1 being very poor and 20 being . Support Less defensive responsibility and more the traditional wide player who will look to cross the ball early, run past the opposition or pass inwards to the midfield to recycle possession or progress forward. Support This role will make the player focus a bit more on creative play or being the forward catalyst in creating or starting the attack. Mentals are important too. At some stage I intend to complete last years save. They do not venture too far out of their box when in possession. Expand OK so I had a quick play with the ratings files. FM Base has been serving the Football Manager community for nearly two decades and we're keen to ensure that we are here for two decades more. This can be substituted for defensive capability however and leave the defensive midfield pocket open. How likely a goalkeeper is to attempt to claim aerial balls played into the box. The degree of influence.3. Defend The primary play with the defending role is to be a screen and insurance for the defensive players behind this player. Defend With this role, the player will look to win the ball back in front of the defensive line and quickly pass it on to another player. https://www.dropbox.com/s/r55jwbdutrq19n6/MDW22.grf?dl=0. Let us know how it goes. There should not be major discrepancies between positions ie you should be getting most positions covered in the top 50 or so top players.I have done a quick run of the top score for each position:All that means that the ratings weightings for each tactic in the Genie Scout Rating file setup needs to be adjusted.Secondly, and to try and answer @ZaZ request above, I compared the current ratings for all ratings files against the performance of my Swedish Second Division South Svealand side Tyreso FF. That success is based off their attributes. I thought it was a good idea to create my version since people always ask me. He did a test and set all the "unimportant" attributes ( according to the attributes rating table ) to 1 and few important to 20 and he easily won the EPL. Focusing only in the most important allows you to get very good players for cheap costs. Gunners at 2021-12-30 14:36Basic introduction:1. If you have any question feel free to contact us support@fm-arena.com, Create an account or log in to leave a comment. They are mainly based on FM-Arena performance tests, dividing players in three groups:- Defense: central defenders.- Transition: wingbacks and defensive midfielders.- Attack: wingers, central midfielders, advanced midfielders and strikers.Goalkeepers are also there, but they use my personal feelings instead of any tests, since it's hard to evaluate the most important attributes for goalkeepers.Link here, since I can't upload as attachment. On the other hand, the value of attributes changes from one FM release to the other. The weightings have only been developed by position and not across all positions so need adjusting in terms of weight for each position. At some stage I intend to complete last years save. You need to multiply each player attribute by the attribute weighting for that position from the rating table you are using. The views expressed on this site are the views of the individual contributors and not those of Sports Interactive or SEGA. The first observation is that you need to balance the ratings files. They will provide support in wide areas at times, but from deep. You may not copy and distribute the work in full. He did a huge post about it on the Korean FM forum. Expand Yes. in link its only GRF file :/ Expand There isn't much what to do there. Detailed information about each role. Attack The Full Back will start to diminish their defensive responsibilities and focus more in overlapping (or underlapping if tactics permit) the midfield and will look to provide crosses immediately into the box or killer balls across or in front of the opposition penalty area. 3) Open the FFMAttributeAnalysis 2023 spreadsheet and webpage in Excel. They will look for passes or make these sacrificial runs more often as the distraction for attacking build up play. Defend - The player is more like a traditional centre-back in a back five. The study used machine learning to get the weights.Keep in mind that two attributes of the table have ranges from -100 to 0 in FM Genie Scout instead of 0 to 100: eccentricity and punching tendency. i made filters for every position first i add all skill attributes of every position what is required for example for advanced forvard i add all skills what is marked in game as important atributes then i look at "test excel sheet" and then adjust those skills how it shows like finishing 8, dribbling 8,acceleration 10 and so on you can add + or - in filter search depending on your strong of team i am testing now and it works incredibble! Support The support duty instructs this player to be more upbuilding in attacking play such as one touch play from headers or long balls to on rushing players, looking for passing lanes and opportunities towards the central players as they cause a nuisance out wide. Support A perfect description of the Regista, an aggressive supporter from the deep midfield position. I would also like to derive the positions not covered. All are definitely usable.Now if we look at average % difference from the best rated team the order is MDW, ykykyk, ZaZ -50, ZaZ -25, ZaZ, ZaZ -100. A Football Manager guide to player roles. Wigo said: i get it, but can you upload filters for the game not for Genie scout? maybe you can a new thread for this? Cover This role will make your defender play more as a sweeper, they will drop back a bit further then your defensive partner(s) and sweep up balls and mark overlapping players (has to be made specific with tactics). Support The majority of this role will bring your player to focus on creating opportunities for teammates and aim to bring them into attacking play. Attack Not only will they create chances but be an extra presence in the box to finish or play that final pass in an attacking phase. This gives a sense of the value of each attribute for each position.I have used these pieces to calculate values or weightings for the Genie Scout tool. If you have any question feel free to contact us support@fm-arena.com, Create an account or log in to leave a comment, for me personally very difficult to understand how come in the game of shooting the ball in to the net finishing is not making difference. Expand I think this needs a little work to balance out the ratings. Keep in mind that they are not a defensive anchor however unless their attributes, personality, traits, your tactics and more guide them in that direction. ZaZ said: I'm gonna take the freedom to add the filters I use. Will make the player's attribute tactical real CA higher.Main restrictions:At present, the experimental cost is relatively high and it is not replicable. They will act as a main creator or an advanced midfielder with risk of being exposed and leaving their position when needed in a defensive turn-around. Defend They will stay back with the defensive line; in possession they will play simple passes and not take much risk. Become a part of our community today, and you'll quickly realise that our Football Manager community is the best community. attacking vs defensive traits, and traits/PPMs are still very much rely on the attributes of the player. 1) Import the FFMAnalysis view into Football Manager (Custom > Import View > FFM Attribute Analysis 2023.fmf) 2) Press CTRL + P and save as a web page in your preferred location. The last group is given by AI. 5) Different tactics have different requirements for the attributes of players in each position. Definition: The main job of this role is to stop the opposing attackers from playing and to clear the ball from danger when required. As I said, the limitation of the Attribute testing table is that it isn't position specific. Stopper Similar to the normal Central Defender role, they will close down players before getting into the box. RDF Training Schedules & Development guide. The guiding significance for training, the attribute is occupied by the CA, in order to cultivate the tactical real CA For the highest player, we can cultivate the most cost-effective attribute. If you go to your Squad page in the game and then to Analyst Report and Comparison, you can see how your current squad compares to others in your League on each Attribute. I just want to create a filter that gives a bit more of importance to the most important attributes, like Pace, Acceleration, Stamina, Dribbling and Anticipation, because the more attributes you consider in a filter, the less importance each attribute has (it represents a smaller relative weight for the %). 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